are you really this simplistic? who writes this drivel? improvements for the general welfare were virtually unknown before the industrial revolution? perhaps you should spend more time in your history (and anthropology) books, you ignoramus.
For the record, Foster writes, improvements "in" the general welfare, not improvements "for" the general welfare, as the anonymous commentator claims. There is a difference between doing something with intent and achieving nothing, on the one hand, and doing something (intentional or not) and achieving improvements in an area, on the other.
Perhaps we should read more carefully before making wild accusations about ignorance and simplicity?
To the editor,
I challenge Peter Foster's assertion that Adam Smith's argument about "the fundamental inability of governments to enhance the free economy, except by protecting property rights and guarding their citizens from real, tangible threats" is even more relevant nowadays due to the complexity of the modern world.
With the current high priest of laissez-faire capitalism, Alan Greenspan, testifying that the events since last September challenge his whole intellectual edifice and now calling for temporary nationalisation of some U.S. banks, things really are in a mess and I'm not sure Adam Smith offers much solace.
While duly noting that Smith was no fan of government's capacity to get things right, I think Foster is dismissive of the viewpoint that Smith is "misrepresented as an uncritical advocate of a free economy", rather "he believed that the government should be responsible for major public works ... (and Smith also) warned against the evils of industrialization."
I think a more balanced conclusion is that Smith's skepticism (or cynicism) about human nature is still relevant - self-interest, greed and adherence to conventional wisdom explain a lot of what we see in both public and private life.
As Foster notes, our modern economy is vastly more complex and interrelated (and materially rich) than anything that Smith could have imagined. As this speculative bubble collapses, we are witnessing consequences even more far-reaching and wrenching than what could have happened in Smith's time.
How to reduce the vulnerability and fragility, and restore stability and confidence, in our economy and financial system is the immediate and overwhelming priority for policy makers around the globe, as it should be.
We also face longer-term challenges much greater than what Smith could have imagined - for example, a world where healthy air and drinkable water are in shorter and shorter supply for more and more people, where consumption of materials and energy is vastly tilted to the developed world, where long-term exposure to industrial toxins will affect more and more people, where lack of economic security and investment in society are creating a growing underclass. I could go on.
Are we up to the task? I think Adam Smith would have his intellectual doubts but I hope he was enough of a Presbyterian to recognize these as moral challenges. We simply have to address them or forfeit our humanity.
Andrew Hall
Ottawa
While I enjoyed the article's description of Smith's thesis that self-interest creates market efficiencies some of the inferences in this article are extremely weak.
It would have been interesting if more was given concerning Smith's thinking on the free market working within the rule of law. Rule of law implies some social constraints to self-interest. While, sure, self-interest is a driver of efficient market forces, it also motivates some people to use child labour, maintain unsafe working conditions, externalize their costs by polluting the environment, etc.
Describing and even proving the efficiencies of the market to deliver goods and services does not also prove that nothing happens as a secondary effect of that successful delivery that is harmful to the larger society.
Discounting climate change by discounting science in total is getting really silly.
"that scientific theories are designed to cater to our desire for simple explanations, and are always and inevitably provisional. He would thus treat with the greatest suspicion pervasive claims that climate change science was settled, and would be troubled by the extension of government controls to address it."
All our thinking (scientific or economic or ...) is based on abstractions from current and past experience which, of course, are always provisional. Certainly, nothing is ever "settled".
We've learned from past experience that if temperature rises then ice melts. But it could be that this past experience, for some reason, unknown to us at this time, doesn't apply to Arctic Ice. At some point magically all the ice in the Arctic won't be melted and New York City won't be flooded. At some point before sea levels become dangerous the melting ice will turn into gold and we'll all be rich! Maybe it's worthwhile waiting until that happens. You never know!
To the first two commentators, especially the second with his/her fixation on semantics - but especially to Peter Foster - I suggest reading Karl Polanyi's "The Great Transformation" for evidence of major social-based movements for improvements both "for" and "in" the general welfare; improvements which were often undone by the Speenhamland laws in Britain and the subsequent coming of the industrial revolution.
While Smith made significant contributions to economic thought to claim that modern prosperity is solely or mostly dependent on capitalism as he describes it is nonsense. The US economic expansion after 1880 was based on huge trade barriers and large monopolies hardly textbook Smith. Similarly with Japan and currently with China. If he were alive today he would probably be interested in the economic thought that followed him unlike his enthusiasts. He would probably be disturbed by the near religion that some people have made of his writings. Putting his book with the other two religious manuals for everything would be an embarrassment. Das Capital whose arguments’' arch collapse when the keystone of his argument that of value fails or the bible that advocates human sacrifice, genocide, stoning and not eating seafood. Smith's writings are insightful and important but are followed slavishly by only those who are too lazy to think or are too afraid to face a world where they don’t have a master blueprint to follow..
Peter Foster declares, as though it's a given: "Two human tendencies — to trade and to specialize". While trade might be natural to humans, specialization is brought about by social pressures to conform. We as individuals caught in the matrix of society, generally regard with suspicion, multi-faceted individuals (unless they "make good").
We are by nature curious, and this curiosity is squelched (or to be more euphemistic "channeled") into, as many individuals within society maintain, "useful occupations".
who is not familiar with Adam Smith? he is very famous with the economic theory
whether teory Adam Smith is still relevant to current economic conditions?
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